rurounihime: (callisto by morbideclipse)
rurounihime ([personal profile] rurounihime) wrote2006-12-02 10:35 pm

Ranties

More bullshit about preserving the sanctity of marriage.

I'm still waiting for that Magical RebuttalTM from the "sanctity of marriage" people. You know the one I'm talking about: It will supposedly refute the challenge made to fix divorce rates, domestic abuse, spouse-ditching, child abuse, drunken marriages that get dissolved the very next day, and spousal murder BEFORE deigning to say that gay marriage impinges on the "sanctity of marriage."

What sanctity? The sanctity I see, currently, is most certainly not exclusive to heterosexual couples. It isn't confined to divisions of sexuality; marriage sanctity is a huge and rewarding effort made by both spouses, regardless of gender. And frankly, the idea that het-couples magically get to sidestep the requirements being placed on gay marriage just because they are heterosexual is the most hypocritical argument I have heard in a long time.

So. Magical Rebuttal? Let's go, people, pronto. If you seriously believe that the sanctity of marriage will be destroyed by legally recognized gay unions, you better put your money where your mouth is and prove it to me, preferably without using religious reasoning that half the people in the world don't follow or recognize anyway. That's called subjective "proof", and it doesn't apply to everyone, or even most people. If there's a scientifically acceptable reason out there, tell it to me. Because I'm really starting to believe that you HAVE no answer to that argument.

One more thing: If your sentence ends with "it just IS that way," then don't bother wasting your time using it here. You will not like the response I give you. That kind of reasoning would never hold up in a scientific journal or in a competent court of law. We're all critical thinkers. We can be mature enough not to resort to petty tantrum throwing and foot stomping.

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[identity profile] phoenixacid.livejournal.com 2006-12-03 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
The line shouldn't be drawn through sexuality, but rather through individual ability and effort.

Hear, hear! Unfortunately, not everyone thinks that way - especially traditional and religious families/friends like mine.(Though not all religious/traditional people are like that)

I learnt to never begin a sentence with: "Lets say that I'm a lesbian-" when debating about topics such as this one. Their reactions were... explosive. But then again, these are the same people that told me that I'm going to a special hell for reading Satan!Harry Potter.


[identity profile] rurounihime.livejournal.com 2006-12-03 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
That distresses me so much, because it indicates that none of those people are willing to even open their minds enough to discuss it. Which is ridiculous to me. Are we to be damned for thinking freely now? People just shut down immediately, close down on a phrase or an image, and point fingers. Whatever happened to critical thinking? To the right to be hypothetical? I have tried policing my brain like that, and let me tell you, it is the cause of so much stress and aggravation to me, that I can begin to understand all those jokes about inherent guilt complexes and the like. When you can be doomed because a stray thought crosses your mind... that's just depressing, and I refuse to accept that.

[identity profile] phoenixacid.livejournal.com 2006-12-03 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
Some people are just afraid to 'contract' the so-called disease, homosexuality. By speaking about it or god-forbid, accepting gay relationships, people might think that they're gay.

The problem is, many believe that any reasons/decisions/beliefs besides those that match their own are automatically wrong. Therefore, they refuse to open their minds or listen to other well.. stuff.

When you can be doomed because a stray thought crosses your mind... that's just depressing, and I refuse to accept that.
I am doomed a thousand times over if that's the case. :)



[identity profile] rurounihime.livejournal.com 2006-12-03 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, apparently I am doomed in that case as well.

Yeah, there's never been a shortage of "I'm always right"s in the world. I'd like to believe that the instant you say that phrase, you have just ruined any chance you have of always being right.

But then, I know I've done my share of being obstinate, too. I think we all have.