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rurounihime) wrote2006-12-02 10:35 pm
rurounihime) wrote2006-12-02 10:35 pm
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More bullshit about preserving the sanctity of marriage.
I'm still waiting for that Magical RebuttalTM from the "sanctity of marriage" people. You know the one I'm talking about: It will supposedly refute the challenge made to fix divorce rates, domestic abuse, spouse-ditching, child abuse, drunken marriages that get dissolved the very next day, and spousal murder BEFORE deigning to say that gay marriage impinges on the "sanctity of marriage."
What sanctity? The sanctity I see, currently, is most certainly not exclusive to heterosexual couples. It isn't confined to divisions of sexuality; marriage sanctity is a huge and rewarding effort made by both spouses, regardless of gender. And frankly, the idea that het-couples magically get to sidestep the requirements being placed on gay marriage just because they are heterosexual is the most hypocritical argument I have heard in a long time.
So. Magical Rebuttal? Let's go, people, pronto. If you seriously believe that the sanctity of marriage will be destroyed by legally recognized gay unions, you better put your money where your mouth is and prove it to me, preferably without using religious reasoning that half the people in the world don't follow or recognize anyway. That's called subjective "proof", and it doesn't apply to everyone, or even most people. If there's a scientifically acceptable reason out there, tell it to me. Because I'm really starting to believe that you HAVE no answer to that argument.
One more thing: If your sentence ends with "it just IS that way," then don't bother wasting your time using it here. You will not like the response I give you. That kind of reasoning would never hold up in a scientific journal or in a competent court of law. We're all critical thinkers. We can be mature enough not to resort to petty tantrum throwing and foot stomping.
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I'm still waiting for that Magical RebuttalTM from the "sanctity of marriage" people. You know the one I'm talking about: It will supposedly refute the challenge made to fix divorce rates, domestic abuse, spouse-ditching, child abuse, drunken marriages that get dissolved the very next day, and spousal murder BEFORE deigning to say that gay marriage impinges on the "sanctity of marriage."
What sanctity? The sanctity I see, currently, is most certainly not exclusive to heterosexual couples. It isn't confined to divisions of sexuality; marriage sanctity is a huge and rewarding effort made by both spouses, regardless of gender. And frankly, the idea that het-couples magically get to sidestep the requirements being placed on gay marriage just because they are heterosexual is the most hypocritical argument I have heard in a long time.
So. Magical Rebuttal? Let's go, people, pronto. If you seriously believe that the sanctity of marriage will be destroyed by legally recognized gay unions, you better put your money where your mouth is and prove it to me, preferably without using religious reasoning that half the people in the world don't follow or recognize anyway. That's called subjective "proof", and it doesn't apply to everyone, or even most people. If there's a scientifically acceptable reason out there, tell it to me. Because I'm really starting to believe that you HAVE no answer to that argument.
One more thing: If your sentence ends with "it just IS that way," then don't bother wasting your time using it here. You will not like the response I give you. That kind of reasoning would never hold up in a scientific journal or in a competent court of law. We're all critical thinkers. We can be mature enough not to resort to petty tantrum throwing and foot stomping.
I'm open 24 hours.
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And you are so, so right about secular "faith" being just as Evangelical. People think that because they don't have a religious title tied to their comments, they aren't being religiously prejudiced. And that's such a crock. There are at least two sides to every argument. And both of them can degenerate. I think it's a function of people trying to feel more important, more righteous, than others, and so they tend to smack down what they don't personally find important, therefore labeling everyone else as "stupid." Which is wrong.
I don't know if you were thinking of thise when you mentioned scientific theories, but my brain went into a tangent: It's just such a leap for me, personally, to see people ignoring scientific discovery and such out of hand just because it conflicts with their religious beliefs. I guess you'd say part of my faith lies in the truth of science, and so of course it's very hard to come up against people who put very little creedence in it. But I guess that's the same way you would feel about someone who doesn't believe in God. For you, it's been "proven," for lack of a better word. For others, it hasn't even come close.
I know there's a way to accept both without demonizing one or the other. And I know people have found it. But most people don't seem to want to try. I guess I like to think that everyone would want to at least try. But then again... these are humans we're talking about...
Sorry, I'm also a bit of a pessimist. Could you tell? ^__^ ♥